So you will be stuck with the factory settings. The tuning method is only possible on Bafang BBSxx series motors. Hi Giel In order to change the firmware that allows 52V, you do need a programming cable. It, in turn, will decide how fast the e-bike will accelerate. But this unfortunately isnt the case . Which is fine, it will just not have a lot of power. Bafang firmware update/ Error 30 fix/Error 7 fix BBSHD BBS02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4KdSIWpR48 Video explaining how to update/flash your Bafang controller firmware. I have a 36v 500w bafang mm g340.500 07 motor. This setting determines the amount of time the system takes to reduce the power when you stop pedaling. No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric motors from Bafang as well as any help and solutions you know of. You can monitor the voltage level of the battery as well, this way you can make your own estimate, but this requires some knowledge about battery voltage level vs capacity. Hi, first of all, many thanks to this quide, is so helpful. Hi Giel, the reply button was to a previous comment for some reason.. So it is not possible to have PAS 0 as a throttle only setting. It will not try to ramp up the speed and will not stress the motor extra. Example is current at 10% speed at 100% with speed limit set to 20mph. I would however not worry at all about having only 5 assist levels. DPC18 Display If not, try to change them to these values. Hi Giel, Some questions about my bike range. The controller and cooling of the BBSHD are better than the BBS02. The gears are aligned good, nothing is bent. I realize this may be impractical, but Im only using it as an example. There should be a controller that connects your display, throttle, pas and motor together. Zover ik weet, zijn ze zelfs exact hetzelfde op een Bafang systeem. Thank you for your useful information. If you dont KNOW that you need this fix, DONT do it. BBSHD unpotted Display Power Line.jpg README.md STC15W4K32S4-en.pdf README.md Bafang_BBS02_BBSHB Thanks! Yes, everything works fine but the settings are far from perfect while set to default. Your power will increase, but the reliability will decrease. This would mean the controller and motor is always assisting under strain. Doing this will show the correct speed in mph although it shows kmph on the screen its actually mph now with this change. Did you use special software? I have BBSHD motor and 48V battery. I probably Will order an other Bafang controller if I have to for now. furcifer 10 kW You should match it with your bike, otherwise the speed measurement will be incorrect. Hoping to pedal more and run the motor longer. Regards, Pas0 wont have any assistance when set to 0% current limit. Re: BBSHD Voltage Problem Firmware Update & Instructions The battery percentage read out is determined by your display firmware. So this is not something I would recommend at all. I know both batteries are full because the voltage reads 52.6. But if you would like to have throttle in PAS 0, change the current limit of that assist level in the Basic tab. I believe Bafang has disabled this option in later/current controllers. You can simply use the suggested settings in this guide. I guess I should phrase my question in a different way to shed more clarity. The battery percentage indicator tends to be a bit inaccurate on the Bafang displays. So it will probably have trouble connecting to it as well. By tweaking these settings, you can make the throttle respond more to your liking. The read out % indeed is related to the battery voltage. It is no big deal. I like to take the time to answer all the questions you might have! Hoi Giel, Ik heb een 750 watt bbs02 met een dpc18 display op een 48 volt akku. I did some more research. So riding along in too low of a gear in the effort of increasing efficiency will create the opposite effect since you then will not be able to put in your own leg power. BTW, instead of unplugging and replugging the battery, I turn it off then on. For me on my road bike I normally go around 90-100. If changing it in the menu really doesnt work, you will not have any other option of getting it to display the right %. Did anyone had the same issue or any advice? Therefore the cut-off will also be hit earlier than expected. Just try to apply the power gently in the higher gears to prevent excessive wear caused by those slips. So do make sure the current limit is set to 30A. So I also think its just bad luck. So thats the only way to do it. The kids are really getting into trail riding and an ebike will help me ( and the kids) with our own personal energy levels. So you can maintain that speed. My best guess would be to still try and connect to the firmware. There are quite a lot of steps and you could possibly brick your controller. If you increase the power, the torque will increase, but the speed will increase as well. In order to start reprogramming your Bafang BBSxx mid-drive system, you will need a programming cable. PS: Anyone looking to buy a used BSSHD controller with the throttle mod done. Assist 6 -current limit 80 speed limit 70 Assist 8 -current limit 90 speed limit 50 Assist 9-current limit 100 speed limit 40 In this way on level 5 of the display I have the maximum current with a reduction in speed I also confirm that the two modes of the ECO / SPORT display are exactly the same except for the color change. So speed is not my priority. You can also lower the start up current, this will decrease acceleration but will ofcourse also increase range. 18- ride and have fun! This is not something you can program in the software with the programming cable. Thanks for your suggestion! My kids both have legit mountain bikes as well. Download the correct file according to your Bafang motor version. Furthermore, I would just recommend leaving pas0 on 0% current limit. If it has a torque sensor, the settings will be different. I recommend 36, since this is the default and in my opinion, works perfectly. This makes the Bafang BBSHD amazing potential useless. Second question. Just read the article carefully to find out what al settings mean and if they are applicable to what you want. I suspect this only happens in the highest gear? This will just result in a decrease in range. Will it be ok to use the settings you provide or should i change anything else in the settings or reduce any of the settings? I had a light on the usb lead but But software says communication error. Thanks a lot for this awesome guide. Model: BBS3 For now I dont see any obvious problems, it should just work. This morning I used your instructions to reconfigure my settings. Hitting the magnifying glass will automatically select the correct port. NOTE: Presumably this means you follow these steps: This is a difficult error to fix since it can be caused by a lot of things. This allows you to work with your saved profiles even if you haven't connected your bike. I am a little confused about why your controller isnt 30A. Email *. If you live in the Netherlands, which is completely flat, this is actually really nice to have ;). So make sure, your highest cassette gear, is 11T. I was wondering if you know what is the *stock* current limit for this model? However, it always appears blank with dashes: Range - is there a way to program the controller so it displays the range left on your battery? Hi Giel . I have never heard of this issue before. You can do this manually using the display. So this setting can be handy for legal reasons. Bye., Franco https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ak55h0vmhwe1hm/BafangConfigTool.zip?dl=0. Do you know of this 2nd method & the pros & cons of each method ? If its installed on the 20 and set at 26 the display it will not display the correct speed. Battery is 5 years old but seems normal, issue only started after replacing old burnt out controller with a new Luna controller. So if you are not planning to ever use the Bafang BBSHD 1000+ watt power, I should buy a less powerful cheaper motor. I understand you can always shift to lower gear but lets say it would increase pedal cadence/RPM to a high uncomfortable rate. How did you achieve this? The wires had pulled away from the pins within the moulded connector. Very much appreciate this site. If you have a mid-drive, there actually isnt a way to reprogram it to 52V. Die Mglichkeit, dass Sie etwas braten, ist dann ziemlich hoch. If you have a 48V battery, this should be set to 40-41V. Hi Frank, have you adjusted the settings and if so how did you go? Also make sure that the cut-off voltage is set to 41V (if you are running a 48V battery). I tried to connect with my desk top instead of labtop and quite the same problem except that COM4 is available when i connect the USB cable. Needed for crossing busy streets. LOL 1. on Windows 10 the system recognizes the usb driver (as USD-ser CH340 I believe); on an old Windows 7 machine I have, I installed the driver and its the same name as the one Win10 recognizes. When the voltage drops down just below 49V +/- while riding it appears that I loose by assist by 50% of what I was getting at a higher voltage of 49 and above. Note that I havent tried it on the road. Ill try it at 26 and see what happens. What current limit (A) i can put on the first page, I mean, what is the maximum number? Thanks. The BBSHD Bafang 1000 watt motor kit is a high-performing, lightweight, quiet, fast, hill-climbing, well-engineered electric bike kit. I also have no experience with this kind of reflashing. Assist 1 20 / 100 Both modes will have the same behaviour. I also dont think that you can improve your range with reprogramming certain settings. Hi Clement, if can help you, i got the same problem, i installed the iobit driver booster software,(no sponsor off software, just worked for me), it update my bafang driver and worked. Ex I have 0% on the screen, but I still can ride 20km. I would just keep the current limit of PAS 0 on 0 however. There are a couple of things you need first to program your Bafang Controller: https://www.youtube.com/results?searserial+adapter, Dictionary of Ebike Acronyms & Definitions, 72 Volt (20S) Battery Voltage Chart - Li-Ion Batteries, 60 Volt (16S) Battery Voltage Chart - Li-Ion Batteries, 52 Volt (14S) Battery Voltage Chart - Li-Ion Batteries, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PWRtuQ3j1fJ20hq3ICmL4vZzHtFRPoQ2/view. I can find no explanation about the difference between setting the Current Limit to 0 or 1. Enjoy your e-bike anyway! I really want to make these improvements to my bike! Yes, you could lower the controller maximum current. The only voltage you can change is on the display, which effects the battery percentage indicator. So if you do this, the chance that something will fail increases. Thats why the setting should/can be set to 30 if you have the BBSHD. You can try to reset to your default settings, and see if it still happens. You should verify if the usb cable is actually connected to COM3, you should be able to check this in windows. Im using the Luna Cycle Bafang software (the link to the bafang software on this site doesnt work for me) Maybee the Luna program is limited at 28 amps?? By the way, my controller has been completely recovered. You should set this to match the wheel size of your bike. I also have never had my hands on such a motor, so I unfortunately cannot tell you anything about programming that specific motor. This is the only speed sensor that works with the Bafang BBSxx, this setting is the default. For my part I did it, but I am looking to share the experience with other users. De eco en sport modes zijn niet te configureren. So dont worry about it too much, you will be fine! I have found two faults and it was Mainly the five pin connector going to the display ! Thank You! Error code 30 can be an hard error to fix, since it is not always clear which part is causing the error. Download. Ik kan deze eco en sport mode helemaal niet terugvinden in de configuratietool op mn laptop. This firmware is intended to replace the original Bafang firmware on the BBSHD/BBS02 motor controller. It is safer to have it at 0% in PAS 0 on start up. Thanks, Giel! It doesnt sound like a battery issue. It isnt worth it to pedal with an unnaturally high cadence to improve the efficiency of the motor just the slightest bit. I will keep looking and I will try another LCD. The tool helps in disagnosis and detecting errors. I understand that this might be confusing. What you need to check though is if the cut-off voltage in the programming software is set to the correct value. Because more power might be able to give your more top speed still, if you havent increased this already. Read and Wrtie tabs are eather inactive. Can you still connect to the controller? May 08 2019 3:00pm. The outside diameter of the 26 tyre is 29 so maybe thats why It was set to 29 on the display? There is no dedicated software or cable available for programming this specific motor for consumers. This could happen while I am taking it easy peddling on a flat surface in 5th gear with the PA set to 1. The window cannot be maximized. As long as you just pedal to assist the motor, it wont cause any harm. I recommend 4 because this results in a responsive system. So if you set this setting really low, then the motor will assist less when you have reached a constant speed. Avec cette configuration, encore quelques soucis : -coup parfois, et difficults de relance de niveau 2 3 voir 4. This way the throttle will always have a 100% current and speed limit, no matter the PAS level selected. Yeah think u are right. Its stops only when i use the brakes to stop the motor. BBSHD Voltage Problem Firmware Update & Instructions Are you talking about maintenance of the Bafang motor? You are now ready to test your new configuration. Just my luck. Only in first gear when applying throttle the engine cuts out until applying more throttle, then cuts out again, until max throttle is applied. Hi Giel, I really thank you, not only for the time you have taken to reply to this post but for all the information you supply on your site not only for me but for other enthusiasts. So would definitely give that a try. Install the software and driver on a different computer/laptop. And can you tell me what the current battery voltage it, when it states 50%? Assist 4 -current limit 60 speed limit 90. It cannot be done with the programming software in this post. My questions are pretty basic. 1000W Battery 52V. Ein Kabeladapter von Higo F auf B hat nicht funktioniert. So if either of the above gives you even the slightest hesitation, stop reading and go ride. mijn vraag ik krijg geen uitlezing op het display range . I recommend current since this is easier to calculate by your controller. Unfortunately, you cant change this setting. This way the motor can overcome its own friction. First Name Last Name. I have a Bafang 750W BBS02 with 48V 17.5Ah battery fitted to carerra subway 1 with a 8 speed rear cassette and a 44t chainring. I changed the settings as detailed above, but it still doesnt work properly. So for the BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD. The only thing that should be avoided is accelerating from standstill in a low gear. I have programmed to your suggested settings. Even if you would make a bad shift in a really high power mode, you wont brake anything. Hello, Who designed this thing? The ebike will just get up to the speed that can be reached with that amount of power, it wont be stopped by speed limit restrictions. i know this is a bit of a different question, but do you think it is possible to set the controller to 25km/h on startup every time when it is started? You now have created a back-up you can use later if problems occur. 4 Open the STC programing software. Just make sure you set the Limited Current (Amps) to 30 not 25 which is . Ill use it when Im going somewhere in the car to check accuracy then use the best one to set my bike up. Only change the setting Wheel Diameter[inch] to your wheel diameter, leave the other settings unchanged. Some controllers can handle this better than others. The percentage indicates at which percentage of the maximum rpm the motor will stop assisting. So next I set my max speed for my display to 45 kmh. Its not a big problem that you already bought a replacement controller. Warning: The firmware should NOT be flashed or configured while the eBike battery is charging! Which display model do you have? I would suggest trying yet another pc and trying to install the drivers again on the pc you already tested with. Assist 2 40 / 100 Yes you could. The sensor should be attached to the wheel that the motor drives. Also, what are the stock current limits on the 0-9 assist levels? Assume that performing any or all of these steps will invalidate any warranty you might have (might not, but, it could). Thank you for your advise. But most of the time, this is locked down as well. Got the cable and averything else but a little scared to use it. No problem! I then used the LCD to get me to 20mph. All is working nicely now. The Bafang motor is meant to be a closed system. Which is a safe thing to do. I understand your question. You should measure your battery voltage, to check if its right. You could read the settings on your controller and back those up first. Its strictly a feature of the mid-drives. top dank u wel voor de reactie . Thanks, If you want to avoid it completely, you will have to opt for hub motor style e-bikes. Updated Download file to include profiles and PDF. I prefer setting my display to 5 levels. I prefer the Speeed program that works on my Android cell phone. Yesterday, I took the bike for a ride and could not use the third gear because of the slipping. If you happen on settings that work for you, please share. It can be bad if you wont pedal at all and let the motor do all the work with the throttle for example. I would then just live with the fact that the programming doesnt work for your controller. Special programs and procedures are needed to execute this firmware update. Enjoy your e-bike! Tongsheng TSDZ2 vs Bafang BBS02 Which one is for you? Id like one level to only respond to the throttle, no pedal assist. As mentioned in previous posts decreasing current will also decrease torque. I meant if we should do some service work with the motor after maintenance, during exploitation, open it, check smth, grease. If you do this with care, you will be fine! Hi Giel . The little magnifying glass does not offer me other COM. Just want to say that I REALLY appreciate what youre doing, taking time out of your day to explain help people out. There for sure isnt a different version of the DPC18 display. You can ofcourse also change it using the programming software. The higher the Wh, the more range you will get. What exactly does the settings file that you created do? It makes a noise, not more than that. I am able to edit all of my settings, the bike is read once I open the config software. This is the newest and most updated Bafang display. I than think you have checked everything you needed to do. Do you know what the difference is between the BBS02 and the BBS02B ? If you take good care, nothing bad should happen and you can really customize everything to your liking. The small sprocket in the rear just cant take the power and will slip. It could also be a faulty controller, which cant establish a connection. Good luck though! It will even increase the lifetime of the motor by using it at lower power levels. This sensor being faulty is unlikely. The maximum speed you set on your display is also a limit. Buy this Bafang programming cable @Aliexpress Global shipping, Buy this Bafang programming cable @Amazon US shipping. If you for example set the speed limit of assist level 9 to 50%, it will imply that the maximum assisted speed is 50% of the maximum speed that you have set in the display or in the programming software. I used DPC18. ***EVERYTHING*** I know about this, all the information I have about this, is here in this thread; please dont PM me for more info (I dont have any), just ask in this thread, and maybe someone else will know. Im yet to test it but everything went pretty smoothly. But most of the displays wont be able to do this. Compare this speed with the speed on display, if they are within a maximum of 5 km/h difference, its all set correctly. Opensource firmware for the BBS02, BBSHD - looking for developers/collaborators. The debate is launched on this configuration and / or the ETH1861 with M400. You can use the same settings, you should still increment the power each level. Wenn ich anschlussbelegungen beider Displays htte, wre mir geholfen. It would in fact lower it. 2) The way you describe this is wrong, the controller doesnt work like that. Your way to obtain maximum torque at lower speed is indeed what I would do as well, great description. So if you want to know your actual battery percentage, you should stand still and wait a bit for the voltage sack to disappear. Like you Im knew to this setup so if you ahve any tips feel free to share! The number on my motor are CR R209.350.SN.U 5.0 Ok thats what i thought. Frank. Thanks. I therefore cant really help you with this. Its therefore hard to put a percentage to a voltage level. BBSHD mid drive 48V motor. Hi Giel, I have just purchased a BBS02 48v 750w (with 25 amp upgraded IRFB3077 mosfets controller) with 850C display and 48v LG battery. Thanks for sharing your experience in the comment section, it really helps other people as well! The error code 30 is probably also the cause of why the programming doesnt work. I have built many custom pedal bikes over the years and know a few things about bike building. My friend has the same bafang motor and his monitor shows percentage right (100%). I think you are not reaching higher speeds because of your gearing and wheel size. I can set every parameter to my likings but max current wont save at 30 amp. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bBOGwk5FauKVbFH0n-nvE_cDWb-SCHCr?usp=sharing. You are also addressing the fact that you cant keep up with the motor at high power levels due to the high rpm. Such as start current and slow start. En effet, je ne sais pas si le M400 est en BB-32 ou Double signal 24. If anyone with the equipment that has done (or can do) the steps finds anything incorrect or insufficient, let me know and Ill update the instructions, to make this as easy, painless, and foolproof as possible for anyone that needs to do this.
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